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| Rod,
Is it correct that for my user to view their profile then the link should be to the page named 'User Profile' with the User Profile - Profile module on it?
Then to edit there profile (not core data), I need to link to the page that contains the UserProfile module?
Can I change the text that says 'view core info' within the module settings?
Cheers
Dan |
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| Re: Correct module to link to for User Profile 4.3 (N/A) |
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Hi Dan,
This requirement of naming the page "User Profile" is slowly changing as I update the module suite - In the latest UserGroup, Events and UserProfile module (all released in the next week) there are now Module Settings for which User Profile tab to use - this was done because on some sites you might have more than one UP profile view and it would always take the first one. It also gets around the silly naming convention.
To edit it you need to put the Edit Profile control on a page for Registered Users. It will then show the profile of the Logged on User in edit mode. Note that in the version in development (4.3.3) I have stripped out even more fields that can be be replicated in the core - only the Photo, DOB, Censorship level and Public Flag remain, and there are now settings so you can hide these if you are not using them. This is so that you can put a core User Account module AND the ST UP edit module on the same page and change your site settings to point to this page when a user clicks on their profile for editing. This will make the core profile and ST data appear more seamless (although not perfect - ultimately all editing will be done in the core and this Edit control can be done away with).
If you are planning to upgrade then you need to start educating your users to fill in the Biography and Nickname/Middlename (if you use these!) fields in the core instead of in the ST UP.
Does that all make sense? I'm going to have version 4.3.3 on PokerDIY tomorrow as dogfood and it will be clearer on what I am trying to do.
Thanks
Rodney
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| Hi Rod
Yes generally I follow what your saying, and all the enhancements your are adding to new releases sounds excellent. My sites not live yet, I'm prop still 6 weeks away from that. My local test crashed/corrupted, which has meant I have had to start a fresh with now the hosted site. Its not as bad as it sounds, I'm making good progress as most problems I had already resolved with the test site. I will be signing up again, but may wait until the changes we talked about to the user profile (User ratings etc).
I use the DNNSTUFF Aggregator module heavily on my site. I have a page that is named 'My Stuff' this pulls in the users events, groups, blogs and SM profile. On one Aggregator tab I have a user account module as well.
The user just has to click between the Aggregator tabs to change details etc. However I was thinking of adding the Biography and a couple of other elements to the SM user profile, so the core only needed to be accessed for password changes etc, but are you saying now this would be a bad idea, as you plan to move things like the Biography out of the user profile and use the core instead?
In my ideal world I'd like to me able to use the SM user profile, to show and edit all the core data that I have chosen, but my understanding that this is not possible at the moment?...
Are you saying in the future your going to use the core information to populate the SM user profile?
Sorry for the long email!
Cheers
Dan
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| Re: Correct module to link to for User Profile 4.3 (N/A) |
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| Hi could you let me know when ther new versions are out for I
User Profile, the fact that with the new version I can link to a named UP module is excellent,just what I need!
Cheers
Dan |
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| Re: Correct module to link to for User Profile 4.3 (N/A) |
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Hi Dan,
A word of warning; the UserRatings feature is not confirmed on
the product roadmap. I like the idea but I have a massive backlog of items for
the Events module which are going to take a few months to clear (I'm sure you
appreciate the amount of work trying to enhance 8 modules at the same time, and
every customer thinks that the module they use is most important ;)
Realistically the UserRatings might only appear in the 4-6 months time,
depending on how much time I get to spend developing.
With regards to the
UserProfile and the core - yes, I am moving completely away from editing the
profile in the ST UP module. I made this module in DNN 2.x when there was no
such thing in the core, but I am a firm believer in not reinventing the wheel,
and I think the profile properties in the core are done in the correct manner
(ie. using the ASP.NET 2.0 membership provider, so people can plug and play).
The ST UP module was done using a satellite table which was the best solution at
the time. It is not extensible without code changes so it makes sense to migrate
this into the core as it is capbable of handling it. The version I am about to
release (maybe today) has just 4 fields left that can't be done in the core
(YET) - Photo, Public Profile (this flag is becoming less and less relevant),
Censorship Level (specific to ST modules but also becoming quite redundant) and
DOB (useful for birthday calculations). As soon as the core is able to replicate
these I will strip them out. In the backend there will eventually be NO ST UP
table at all - all data will be in the core DNN. Another good reason to do this
is that as the core and other modules become aware of the profile properties
they would not be able to read the ST UP properties, and would all expect them
to be in the core.
It's also important to know that this version does not
have the Advanced Search (for those customers who use it) - I am replacing it
with the search feature in the UserGroup module - ie. searching on a single
property in a dropdown list (you can group these into OR properties btw) and
having templated results. This gives everyone a way of showing exactly what they
want to show in the results and a consistent UI (this will also be ported in the
the Events module).
If you use the Advanced Search or rely heavily on the
existing editing of the Smart-Thinker UserProfile module then please first test
the new version and decide if you want to upgrade. I suspect that it is not that
heavily used so I decided to take this approach, but it's important to
understand the ST UP's purpose (ie. a templated "view" of the core profile data)
and vision.
The version coming out now will fix the UP linking problem -
check back later ;)
Thanks
Rodney
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| Re: Correct module to link to for User Profile 4.3 (United Kingdom) |
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Hi Rod
Thanks for the above. I have my head around it now and see the direction you are heading in, which I agree is the best way forward. Once you make the new UP release I will sign up as the features will be well suited to what I'm trying to do...
Just one final question, with the version I have at the moment, is it possible to remove stuff I don't want to see in the UP edit profile module? example would be censorship is not being used so I'd rather my users don't see it when they update their profile.
Also I take it at the moment, that actual core details can't be updated/edited in the actual UP edit page?
Thanks for the time you take to answer the sometimes very long questions I ask!
Cheers
Dan |
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| Re: Correct module to link to for User Profile 4.3 (N/A) |
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Hi Dan,
Hey - look at the new theme ;) I have just upgraded Smart-Thinker to 4.4.1 (it was a very ancient 3.2.0)!
Yes, in the version about to be released (if not later today then tomorrow) each remaining property has a Module Setting so you can hide the ones that you maintain in the core - I am dogfooding it on PokerDIY - log in and click on your profile to see what I mean.
Yes, that's also correct - the Smart-Thinker UserProfile page will never allow editing of the core properties. This is done very well by the core and will mature over time I believe.
Thanks
Rodney
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| Re: Correct module to link to for User Profile 4.3 (United Kingdom) |
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Hi Rod
Looking good!, nice format/style!..
Ok, thanks I will wait for the new release, may have to wait till I return...have a snowboarding trip next week!
Cheers
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| Re: Correct module to link to for User Profile 4.3 (N/A) |
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I don't browse the site logged out much, but it definitely seems a lot faster and more responsive (in Firefox anyway).
Where are you going boarding? I just got back from France - Les Deax Alps - we were lucky to have snow but the lower slopes were terrible... apparently Canada is really good at the moment...
Thanks
Rodney
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| Re: Correct module to link to for User Profile 4.3 (United Kingdom) |
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Off to Innsbruck, got a mate that lives out there, plus the glazier is not far which has had good snow or good enough....Europe’s suffered this year...
I've been to Les Deax Alps, was good, quite a few interesting bars!..
I was lucky enough to spend 3 months in Whistler, different ball game, mountains are massive!..
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