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New Post 2/1/2007 9:58 AM
  tmcguire
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Integrating Ventrian's NewsArticlesMod  (United States)

Has anyone ever integraded Ventrian's NewsArticles Module into the HomePage mod? I really like that module used as a Blog, better than the core Blog module. 

 

Is there a way  that users who place NewsArticles on their page don't see the "Admin Options" link that comes with NewsArticles? I'd like them to be able to add their own content, but not be able to play around with the admin settings. Not sure if this is possilble.

 

Thanks.

 
New Post 2/2/2007 1:35 AM
  Rodney Joyce
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Re: Integrating Ventrian's NewsArticlesMod  (N/A)
Hi,

No, I have not tried this yet - please note that the HomePage module is being discontinued as it requires constant maintenance each time a new DNN core version comes out - I am worried that a security hole might be exploited and for this reason I am releasing this module as open-source to the community. I will be explaining this in greater detail in a post soon...

For the Admin Options link I would take this up with Ventrian - the HomePage module merely creates a page that the user has Admin Rights over - from then on the module will behave as if it is in Admin mode.

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Rodney
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New Post 2/5/2007 5:16 PM
  Chris Dieker
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Re: Integrating Ventrian's NewsArticlesMod  (N/A)
The comment regarding the EOL /Open Source of Homepage is very disconcerting. I recently purchased an Enterprise license, I don't recall seeing such significant problems in any of the documentation which "sold" this module. While I do understand it is very difficult to support, but, as a business, this is specifically why I paid for this module rather than attempting to build it myself. I am sure you have not included all the details in this post but I can assure you making product, sales, and communications decisions like this is definitely no way to ensure future sales for any of your products.

Thanks,

Chris
 
New Post 2/6/2007 12:22 AM
  Rodney Joyce
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Re: Integrating Ventrian's NewsArticlesMod  (N/A)
Chris,

I apologise for this then - it must be my Developer roots coming through!

There are 2 reasons why I want to retire this module. The first one is that due to recent (and this is why no mention has been made in the past) changes in the DNN core it has rendered the HomePage module unstable. The architecture of the HomePage module is to blame (and therefore me) - I am not saying it is the Core's fault - but the fact is that due to the way it manipulates roles it relies too heavily on the core. It is a technical reason - the module was designed to try and be like MySpace originally, and it used to make 1 role per user (like BizModule's Personal Page module does). This version WAS stable but my customers did not want 1 role per user as it would not scale. To get around this some complex role manipulation was done on the fly by the Control Panel when the page is requested. This worked fine when it was released, but it borrowed some code from the core (like the base for the Control Panel). This means that every time a new version is released the HomePage module in theory could be a security hole - especially due to the nature of operation.
 
The second reason is cost. There is very little money in module development and the more time and effort I spend on supporting a module the less development I can do and the less sales I have. The harsh reality is that at some point the cost of support beings to outweigh the sales, and then I either have to quit module development or make some drastic cuts. I have identified the HomePage module as being one such module - again, due to the architecure that requires too much time and maintenance everytime a new core version is released.
 
I am sincerely sorry for this, and I appreicate and understand exactly what you are saying. This is why I will quite happily refund anyone who believes they are out of pocket because of the withdrawal of the HomePage module. I spend 90% of my development time on the Events, Profile and Groups module, and yet I spend 90% of my support time on this one module. I have been meaning to make an official announcement to explain these reasons in more detail, but I have literally been working every single day (including the weekend) and have not had time (ironically).
 
I thought the fairest way to solve the problem would be to make it opensource so that people with time on their hands can try and get around the problems I could not in the time that I am able to afford on it. All customers still have the module as before and it can be developed further if there are volounteers (I literally cannot afford to work on it any longer) .
 
I appreciate your comments and thoughts - let me know if you have any suggestions or ideas please.

Thanks
Rodney
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New Post 2/9/2007 2:41 AM
  Rodney Joyce
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Re: Integrating Ventrian's NewsArticlesMod  (N/A)
I have made the official announcement here regarding the retirement of the HomePage module after 4.3.2. Please discuss any concerns you may have on that thread.
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Rodney
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